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By Cut Wrestling Podcast on 12/11/2020 7:58 AM

Shane Helms Recently Appeared on the Cut Pro Wrestling Podcast produced by Back Sports Page with Emerito Rivera and Randy Zellea


ON the AEW Appearance At Full Gear: "Well, I mean, I've worked with Matt Hardy, you know, we've known each other for a long time, so it was standard fare as far for working with him. We were just glad that we could pull this off carrying this deletion of storyline between three companies. You know, I was the producer on the first deletion that they did in TNA. And so then we got to do a little bit of the cinematic stuff and WWE as well. And then, to continue that story in AEW was something we thought would be pretty unique. So, uh, it was a lot of fun and a lot of the, a lot of the people in production on the AEW staff, I had known as well. I knew some of them, even from my WCW days. So, um, I'm one of those people I've kind of been around. So even though I show up, I'm not really the new kid, cause everybody kind of knows me anyway."

On his Appearance On Talkin Shop 2: "That was those guys that, you know, they just let me do whatever I wanted, you know, they had to kind of assemblance and it was like, eh, just, just make it funny. And that's literally what they had on the script that Shane would make it funny. And, uh, but the best part though, it was supposed to be a redemption story for Marty Jannetty. He was finally going to throw somebody through the barbershop window and then he couldn't last second. He couldn't make the show, which is the most Marty thing ever. He Martyed himself. He's so great."

The Filming Process of Talkin Shop: "I mean, Gallows got a house that's kind of out of the way though. So it's not like he has a lot of neighbors that are going to be bothered by this. Very similar was done at the Hardy compound, very similar process. Um, you know, like for me I just showed up and he said, okay, what do you want to do? Like, what do you want me to do? I don't know. I know Gallows wanted the Hurricane. That was, the first talks we had. He wanted Hurricane on the show. Initially at some point I thought Eric Young was going to be doing this. So my first idea was, well, we got to get a Super Eric and the Hurricane together. That's gotta be in case or somehow, you know what, he's Super Eric and I'm Gregory Helms bashing on him for being a super hero. How we do business. I had a lot of ideas for Eric. Then they almost had Dr. D David Schultz to really, which would have been amazing. And when he said that, I was like, Oh bro. I said, well, you gotta let Gregory Helms do something with David,. And then he finds out I'm a reporter. And that, that would just write itself. You guys know that.  I'm not sure exactly what happened. They couldn't get David, but then it was still in their mind to have me doing the reporter type thing. And somehow that evolved into the wrestling detective. And then I got down. It was like, yeah, you can find a body. And I'm like, what? I didn't know how insane you were going to be. You know, I did see the first one, so I should have known, but uh, you know, so basically they just said, let me come up. You know, they let me come up with all the skits, even like for the first one, you know, with the body being right underneath this and those guys never knew, like they just let me do all that kind of stuff. So it was a creative, uh, you know, collaboration. We would talk to them and like with the referee, if you remember the skit with the referee, I said, okay, well let me come from behind this tree. And then when I'm sitting there talking to the ref off camera, I legit didn't know what he was saying. And so I said that, I said that to Rocky, I'd go, I don't know what he was saying. And it was either Rocky or Karl, like, well, I think that's these kids, I think that's it that you just don't know what he's saying. So it was just a lot of guys that just, you know, it was a creative collaboration. That's the best way to say it.  When the Powers of Pain came out at the end, I was swinging, man. Uh, and cause I knew some of the names that were going to be there, but some of them one day when I was there, you know, when I was done, I left. And so I kind of forgot. And then I didn't see any of the stuff. I guess they shot the stuff with Chavo. Well, I think that was shot out in LA or something. It was, but Chavo’s line when he had a gun and chavo was like, he's got a gun and the referee goes, it's a death match, he goes, “Oh yeah, I forgot about that”. Like, that killed me. It was a little bit too much man for my taste, you know? But, you know, I mean, it's, it's its own thing. You know, if you're expecting a Savage and Steamboat or flavoring Steamboat, this might not necessarily be what, uh, up your wheelhouse, but, uh, It's kind of like a scary movie or something. You know what I'm saying? Not another team movie, it's kind of a parody type thing. And, but it's still got, I tell them what they should do is have a really great match. Like somebody out there just having this really fantastic matching, they're just all over it. Cause they think it's bad. Cause they're so used to bad wrestling on that show. That's what they should do next. I don't know if they'll do it, I probably shouldn't even have said that now they can't do."

Becoming an Agent and Coach: "No, because I've always helped people anyway. No, I've always helpedl people when, uh, you know, like even in WWE sometimes, uh, my first one there, uh, I would help agent like a dark matches. Cause some of the dark matches they didn't, there was no like hands-on agenting back then. Like for some of the local talent stuff like that, I'd already did little things like that. And then, and whatever the year was when I was an agent at TNA, I had torn my ACL and that's how that came about because I wasn't physically active at the time and they needed agents and apparently my name kept coming up and um, you know, cause I was doing Omega at the time too, uh, in North Carolina and we really kind of changed the face of the indie scene in North Carolina with like, I was just want guys to watch what I do at my show.  I'm not trying to run any of these little companies out of business. I just want you to be better, you know, watch what we do, be better. Here's how you do it. And it really improved the whole landscape of North Carolina. And there are companies that learned from it really started booming. Um, so I was, you know, I mean, and I w I've always kind of had a good reputation in the business, you know, I, I had my moments for sure. You know, and I caught like we all do, but overall my reputation is pretty solid. So they brought me in as an agent. And initially I said, they offered me a job the first weekend. And I said, let me see if I'm actually gonna like this first. I said, no, at first, you know, not no, but like let's just pump the brakes.  I came back for a couple more tapings and I really enjoyed it. You know, I really enjoy it. You know, at the end it kind of fast forwarded. I got back active in the indie scene wrestling. They brought me up to the PC WWE called me, wanting me to come down to train at the PC as a coach. And I was like, okay, that, wasn't what I wanted to do. I always wanted to be a producer, but I actually enjoyed coaching a lot more, uh, than I thought I would. Cause I haven't when I was younger, I just didn't have the patience to train people. You know? It just, you gotta have a lot of patience to do that. Cause the people that don't pick it up right away, I just get frustrated with, you know, cause for me it was, it was, it wasn't difficult for me, you know? And I think when you got that's why Michael Jordan isn't a good owner because basketball was so easy for him. He doesn't understand that it's not easy for everybody, you know? And uh, so when I was younger trying to help train and people here and there, I wasn't good, but I got a little bit more patience in my, in my older age. And then the coaching thing led to the producer gig. I really enjoyed that and I was having a blast until the, uh, the COVID hit and we all got furloughed. Okay."

On Wrestlers Having Creative Freedom: "I mean, I think it very important, you know, but uh, the flip side is that some wrestlers aren't creative and they think they are, and therein lies your problem. Like if you're, it's like a, you know, you always hear this conversation about scripted promos, like there's this, you know, really kind of like thought processes. Great. And the promise if he has it not, everybody's good at doing promos, you know, you guys have been to indie shows and you've seen some of these promos, you know, Jesus Christ. That was terrible, you know? And, uh, even in WWE and a couple of live events, we will let the people go down. I just got into and cut a little promo and give them that free reign. And it was like, Jesus Christ. I was frightened, you know, so not everybody's good at it. And you got to experiment with these talents to figure out which ones are good, which ones can you give bullet points to and they can go and make it their own and make it better because there are people that can do that, but not everyone can. And you know, when, when those scripts are turned in, when those writers turn in those scripts to Vince McMahon, they can't have these big blanking, these big gaps of blank pages where a promo is supposed to be. And then cause Vince is going to go with, what is this? He's going to say, whatever he wants, Vince is going to go, what are you talking about? What is the Promo going to be about? You know? So they kind of have to script something. They've got to write something on the paper, you know, and then if the talent is good enough, they can make it their own. But generally if the talent isn't good enough, or they're saying something random that doesn't have anything to do with anything, or it might get the company in trouble."